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Comment from: Squalene? [Visitor]
Canadian H1N1 vaccine contains (per dose) 3.8 micrograms of viral protein (HA) and 5 micrograms of preservative solution mixed with 12 milligrams of Vitamin E, 11 milligrams of squalene, and 5 milligrams of Polysorbate 80, whatever that is.

According to the best research available and a recent study by Johns Hopkins an average person secretes 125 – 475 milligrams of squalene per day from their skin.

The question is - how many shark livers do you need to produce just 5 milligrams of squalene?

Granted we're talking millions of doses. But does anyone have hard numbers of sharks caught for squalene or is this another "save the" campaign without data?

Could the efforts be best used elsewhere?
01/12/10 @ 11:58
The main element in a vaccine is either killed viruses or live ones that have been attenuated. Flu vaccines can also contain a number of chemical toxins, including ethylene glycol (antifreeze), formaldehyde, phenol (carbolic acid) and even antibiotics like Neomycin and streptomycin. For the squalene their would another red sea all blood will be of shark.
01/13/10 @ 04:00
Comment from: Giant Motherfuckin Clam [Visitor]
Squalene? You seem bright, so I'll throw you 10 minutes:

60 Minutes reports that for the US alone "Last summer, the government said there would be 120 million doses of vaccine by fall; weeks later, it revised that to 40 million. Now, just over 17 million have shipped - 14 percent of the first estimate." This does not include the WHO's ambitious plans to provide worldwide vaccinations. This plan was summarily shot down In January 2010 when Wolfgang Wodarg, a Social Democrat deputy who trained as a doctor and now chairs the health committee at the Council of Europe, claimed major firms organised a "campaign of panic" to put pressure on the World Health Organisation (WHO) to declare a "false pandemic" to sell vaccines. Dr Wodarg said the WHO’s “false pandemic” flu campaign is “one of the greatest medicine scandals of the century.” Just to make the point of how unnecessary the demand for this component/additive to H1N1 vaccines is, apparently many nations Surgeon Generals didn't get the memo and journos are too busy covering Kanye West, Mariah Carey and Britney Spears' public declines to give a shit. It doesn't sell 'copy' like a good publicly famous 'car crash' in this day and age.

Sharks of the family Squalidae are pan-temperate in distribution which places them within easy grasp of the world's most efficient fisheries (read most destructive). The numbers of these Squalid sharks, once of greatest worldwide abundance, are already in massive decline from overexploitation for shark-fin soup (China's economic rise has hugely increased demand for this 'supposed' medicinal dish and will not abate in the foreseeable future), as a major source of filets for fish & chips especially in England & France (where it is considered a tradition to have fish on Friday in order to recognize Catholic rites, reg. some shit about Jesus, loaves and fish), as fertilizer (as a major fisheries bycatch for other targeted species, they are simply ground up and added to impoverished poorly-managed soils), as liver oils (a cheap additive for a huge variety of products ranging from cosmetics to medicines), and for pet food (again a desperate use for a major bycatch). On top of this huge and increasing demand on the Squalidae fisheries, they have the longest gestation period of any vertebrate species on this planet (22 to 24 months) are extremely slow to mature and as a fishery must be managed carefully. This reproductive strategy is called a K-Strategist in ecological parlance and is accompanied by such luminary species as the Calfornia Condor whose plight you may be familiar with not to even go into their hugely important ecological role in all temperate seas. In 2001 in the US, the Atlantic States Marine Fisheries Commission (ASMFC) voted to extend an emergency action that closed state waters to fishing for the vulnerable spiny dogfish, previously the most common and currently the most exploited member of the Squalidae family of sharks. The National Marine Fisheries Service predicting the collapse of the spiny dogfish population, closed federal waters to dogfish fishing in July 2003. The spiny dogfish is currently considered as "Vulnerable" by the World Conservation Union (IUCN) due to intense fishing pressure.

I'm a bit miffed that you can make an excellent case for the unnecessary addition of Squalene as a additive in H1N1 vaccines, not to mention that 2,6,10,15,19,23‐hexamethyl‐2,6,10,14,18,22‐tetracosahexaene aka Squalene - a colorless unsaturated aliphatic hydrocarbon - has questionable medical efficacy as an intermediate metabolite in the biogenesis of all steroids and triterpenoids and is naturally produced in high concentrations in the human sebum, but then proceed to question whether this would have any appreciable effects over the standing stocks of species of the family Squalidae. Are you a Republican lobbyist, nattering naysayer of negativity or simply incapable of connecting the proverbial ecological dots???

It ain't rocket science!!!
01/13/10 @ 22:26

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